Blu-ray - Nyheter och Rykten

Redigerat av pacman, 02 oktober 2007 - 10:36.

Svaret från Sony lyder: Tyvärr är inte BDP-S1E förberedd för BD+. Min följdfråga blev då:
Vad kommer det att innebära för mig, som nyss köpt denna spelare för 8000:-, då filmbolagen börjar använda sig av BD+?

Fortsättning följer!

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S1E har alltså varken hårdvaru eller mjukvarutolk för BD+ just nu. Då får Sony se till att S1E får sig en uppdatering innehållandes en mjukvarutolk för BD+, själva tolken är liten och tar knappt några resurser så det ska nog inte vara något problem.

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Spidey...han får samma fimware

http://forums.highde...11&postcount=15

Just got this one in and man oh man.. This transfer is excellent. I've only watched 10 minutes thus far, but the bit rate is constantly hovering around high 30mbps to mid 40mbps. Probably high Tier 1 if not Tier 0..

The BD-Java is interesting too. Since I enjoyed the film, the Global Warming Trivia Track is a nice touch by Fox. Only slight downside is that the disc took a bit to load in my BDP-S300.

My full review will be up on HiDefDiscNews later tonight.

  Production milestone reflects the increasing popularity of 50 Gigabyte
              Blu-ray Disc in the Home Entertainment market

    TERRE HAUTE, Ind., Oct. 2 /PRNewswire/ -- Sony DADC today announced the
production of its 10 millionth 50 Gigabyte Blu-ray Disc (BD50). Sony DADC
manufactures BD50s in its three plants, located in Terre Haute, Indiana;
Salzburg, Austria; and Shizuoka, Japan. The ten millionth BD50 was
manufactured at Sony DADC's Terre Haute facility, and was "Spider-Man™
3" from Columbia Pictures.
    Since the launch of this High Definition format, Sony DADC has produced
more than 50 million Blu-ray Discs in its three plants, In addition, these
three plants have a combined Blu-ray manufacturing capacity of 21 million
discs per month.
    "A year and a half ago, when the dual-layer 50 Gigabyte Blu-ray Disc
was introduced it caused a stir amongst the content creation industry,"
said Bob Hurley, EVP, Sales and Marketing. "The exceptionally high storage
capacity enables movie studios to present their titles in the very best
High Definition visual and audio quality. Furthermore, these huge capacity
discs provide opportunities to load added value content, such as bonus
material, interviews with the actors and production team, plus rich
BD-Java-based interactivity designed to provide a complete entertainment
experience."
    Since Blu-ray Disc manufacturing began in Terre Haute in May '06,
capacity and yield rates have consistently climbed.
    "BD25 yield rates and machine output performance have exceeded our
expectations.
    Single layer yields are consistently around 85% and daily machine
output levels are approaching parity with our DVD assets," said Mike
Mitchell, EVP Sony DADC. "With regard to BD50, yields have increased
steadily, and are consistently between 75% and 79%. Cycle times for BD50
have likewise been improved dramatically. As demand for both BD25 and BD50
increases and the production lines are run more consistently, we fully
anticipate further yield improvements."
    To promote market development of Blu-ray Disc manufacturing, Sony DADC
has worked with leading system integrators of disc replication equipment
such as Singulus and Oerlikon in the areas of dual layer Blu-ray production
technologies. As a result, both Singulus and Oerlikon have recently
announced the shipping of their first BD50 production liners to their
customers within the next few weeks.
    About Sony DADC
    Sony DADC, a leading producer of optical disc media, has cutting-edge
optical media manufacturing facility locations in Terre Haute, IN and
Pitman, NJ. Although widely known for its quality disc production and
distribution services, Sony DADC also develops and delivers dynamic
technologies that not only protect disc content, but also transform discs
into powerful marketing tools by adding secure links to bonus web-site
content or prize incentives. Sony DADC operates within the Sony Corporation
of America corporate group. Visit us at http://www.sonydadc.com or call
1.800.358.7316 for more information.

Sony DADC Produces 10 Millionth 50 Gigabyte Blu-ray Disc

With regard to BD50, yields have increased
steadily, and are consistently between 75% and 79%

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Sony DADC Produces 10 Millionth 50 Gigabyte Blu-ray Disc

With regard to BD50, yields have increased
steadily, and are consistently between 75% and 79%

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Rena rama science fiction!

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And longer-term, BD has the ability to offer lower-cost players than HD DVD since not so much stuff is mandated and other stuff up to manufacturer to decide how to support.

Basically, HD DVD supporters look at the current player pricing and conclude BD can't compete. Big mistake. It can, but the major CE companies want to make a decent profit. So they'll let the chinese BD players handle the player price war.

By the way, AFAIK there are more chinese BD players in development than HD DVD players...

Din layout på nyheter är bra mycket snyggare än min, tror jag snor den i framtiden

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Redigerat av Scrapanatchi, 02 oktober 2007 - 22:55.

Panasonic: Blu-ray Close to Victory

Washington, D.C. (October 2, 2007) -- A top Panasonic executive today said Blu-ray could defeat high-def disc rival HD DVD by the end of the year.

That's according to an article at CNET.com.

Kazuhiro Tsuga, who runs Matsushita's home electronics unit, says Blu-ray manufacturers will soon sharply cut player prices and launch a major promotional effort for the format. (Matsushita is the parent of Panasonic.)

The two actions will give Blu-ray a wide lead over HD DVD by the end of the holiday season or by the end of the first quarter, he said, according to CNET.

Apparently, according to Tsuga, HD DVD backers, led by Toshiba, would then be forced to either drop out of the battle and/or negotiate an agreement with the Blu-ray forces for a single format.

"The BD (Blu-ray disc) companies will try to do our best to promote Blu-ray," he said. "The studios want us to put money in to promote it...By the end of the year, you will see good products with very good promotion."

The lowest-priced Blu-ray player (Sony) is now $499 -- $200 more than Toshiba's entry-level $299 HD DVD. Consequently, HD DVD leads in overall standalone player sales.

However, thanks to the PlayStation 3, which has a Blu-ray player inside, Blu-ray has enjoyed a 2-1 advantage in disc sales.

Many industry analysts have said Blu-ray could pull away if Blu-ray manufacturers dropped their player prices to under $300.

However, despite those predictions, others say the war is destined to last at least another year because of Paramount's decision in August to endorse HD DVD exclusively. The studio joined Universal as studios that back HD DVD exclusively while four major studios support Blu-ray exclusively.

Tsuga, however, downplayed Paramount's commitment, suggesting the studio was paid off to back HD DVD.

http://www.tvpredict...icblu100207.htm
http://crave.cnet.co...html?tag=blog.1

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Självklart kommer det uppdateringar, det är bara diabolo som sitter och försöker skrämmas
(gissa varför det tagit så lång tid att få ut BD+, hade dom struntat i en massa spelare så hade dom kunnat fått ut det betydligt snabbare)

Annars kan du försöker koka skivan och se vad som händer

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I just got off the phone again with Samsung. There are no firmware updates available and there are no plans to release any. They said they were unaware of this problem. The CD being sent to me is indeed the old 1.0 update. Even if I could download, there isn't any new update to fix the current problem. This is ridiculous!

Well, I went out today to buy Silver Surfer on SD-DVD (Fry's had the one disc on sale for $13.99). I found a copy of the Blu-Ray, and even though I said I would stay away from BD+ discs, curiousity got the better of me and I bought Surfer just to see for myself how bad BD+ can screw up a film. You know what they say: seeing is believing (or, in this case, hearing is believing).

Basically the sound is more or less non-existant (my player: the LG Bh100, btw), what you get is a buzzing noise through most of the film. Occasionally the sound works, which makes all the more frustrating. And to top that off, the sound works on the special features and previews. The sound just doesn't work on the movie itself.

Definitely gonna be staying away from BD+ discs for a while. I bought this one more for curiousities sake, but I won't be doing that with future BD+ releases.

If you own a Samsung 1200, it won't matter. Reports from Blu-ray.com say the FF: Silver Surfer won't play in the 1200. Just gets a red screen of death...

I think the sam will hold true for the Samsung 1000 and the LG combo player. Similar reports are hitting for The Day After Tomorrow.

So going forward, looks like a third of the BD players won't play Fox releases thanks to BD+.

Well, reports on the blu-ray dot com site is that the FFROTSS will not play on the 1200. You get a red screen saying updated firmware is needed, on players with the latest firmware for that model.

Maybe Samsung will fix, maybe not... they haven't had an update in a while.

The Lg won't play any BD+ discs, which it now appears FFROTSS and TDAT are both BD+.

I can confirm that the disc did not play in a Samsung 1200, but worked fine on the PS?3. I may dig out my BDPS1.

Redigerat av Unregistered992, 03 oktober 2007 - 09:50.

För på dig låter det som att alla spelare ska explodera när man sätter i en film med BD+

Redigerat av diabolo, 03 oktober 2007 - 10:01.

Jupp men med tanke på dina förra FUD länkar i ämnet så kommer det från helt fel person
(dina länkar speglar endast negativa saker om BD+, när Samsung och LG släpper en uppdatering så finns det inte en chans i **** att du skulle posta det här)

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Du kan blunda o va glad med BD+ , Regionskodningar

olika profiler(BTW vart tog de vägen    )

osv...olika HD användare på olika forum worldwide har problem med BD+ filmerna. Kommer lösning? Vet ej men du verkar ha inside info om det som vanligt 

Over n out.

Redigerat av Unregistered992, 03 oktober 2007 - 10:15.

Vet du på rak arm hur det ligger till med Sony BDP-S1E?

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Nej, finns inga uppgifter om detta på spelaren vad jag sett och hittils inga titlar som använt sig av det.

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OK! Jag slängde iväg ett mail till supporten så får vi se.

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Svaret från Sony lyder: Tyvärr är inte BDP-S1E förberedd för BD+. Min följdfråga blev då:
Vad kommer det att innebära för mig, som nyss köpt denna spelare för 8000:-, då filmbolagen börjar använda sig av BD+?

Fortsättning följer!

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Hoppas bara att jag ej får problem med BD+, tycker BD+ är skit rent ut sagt. Har en  Blu-ray Sony S300.
Det lär väl visa sig när jag köper en film med BD+...

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FIRST ONLINE Oct 3, 2007

Reports of people having trouble with the new BD+ copy protection is starting to surface. The movies in question are Fox's Blu-ray releases of "Day After Tomorrow, The" and "Fantastic Four: Rise of the Silver Surfer."

BD+ is a extra layer of copy protection. With it, they should be able to change the keys used to unlock it. In short this means that if a BD+ disc is hacked and copied they can change the keys which secures future discs of being copied.

All in all a good idea. However, reports of difficulties playing these BD+ protected Blu-ray releases are starting to surface.

Here is what we know so far:
Samsung players seem to be unable to play the discs but a firmware upgrade should be available or in works. However, some say they will not play on the lates firmware from the company. Panasonic players will play the disc but load times are very high. Again, Playstation 3 seems to be the safest bet when it come to Blu-ray. It should play them without problems.

What could be another major problem is that each time the studio change keys a firmware upgrade may be needed on some players. To make things worse many Blu-ray players doesn't even have a internet connection making firmware upgrades more difficult.

We hope this is not the case. If so, i feel that the Blu-ray camp may have scored a goal in its own net. Copy protection shouldn't make life hard for those that pay hard earned dollars for their legal movies. This in the end may push people into downloading illegal movies. At least here they know that these movies will play.

If you have problems with the discs or if they work as a charm please post your comments below. We will return with our own comments when we have tried these discs out ourselves.

Redigerat av diabolo, 03 oktober 2007 - 11:23.

Hoppas bara att jag ej får problem med BD+, tycker BD+ är skit rent ut sagt. Har en  Blu-ray Sony S300.
Det lär väl visa sig när jag köper en film med BD+...

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This is definitely a great feature as it shows what the future of Blu-Ray interactivity may be. The only caveat is that the game took a bit to load on my BDP-S300 (about 60 seconds).

Day after tomorrow

This is definitely a great feature as it shows what the future of Blu-Ray interactivity may be. The only caveat is that the game took a bit to load on my BDP-S300 (about 60 seconds).

Dvs det funkar.

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Day after tomorrow

This is definitely a great feature as it shows what the future of Blu-Ray interactivity may be. The only caveat is that the game took a bit to load on my BDP-S300 (about 60 seconds).

Dvs det funkar.

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Då bör det även funka med BDP-S1E! Det är ju samma maskin som S300.

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Day after tomorrow

This is definitely a great feature as it shows what the future of Blu-Ray interactivity may be. The only caveat is that the game took a bit to load on my BDP-S300 (about 60 seconds).

Dvs det funkar.

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Då bör det även funka med BDP-S1E! Det är ju samma maskin som S300.

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haha så sjukt nice, när hddvd snackar 51gb snackar BDA 100-200gb, life is harsh!

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Är det första gången en film inte funkar i en spelare? Svar nej...
Har det då kommit uppdateringar till dessa spelare? Svar Ja...
Vet vi om det är BD+ som orsakar detta eller något annat som typ, javan eller liknande som behöver en uppdatering? Nej, detta är vad alla tror eftersom BD+ är nytt, fakta är att vissa spelare klarar Day after Tomorrow och andra inte. Silver Surfer använder inte BD+ och vissa spelare hade iaf problem med den, alltså något annat

Uppdateringar kommer hela tiden och varför du försöker sprida skräck i detta fallet vet jag inte, finns inga tidigare händelse what so ever som tyder på att dessa spelare kommer lämnas utanför, upp till Samsung och LG att fixa det, kan Panasonic och Sony så kan även dom...

I have some recent information that the playability problems with TDAT and F4 are not related to BD+, but instead have to do with the Java support on the players in question. The firmware updates should resolve it.

Redigerat av Unregistered992, 03 oktober 2007 - 20:32.

Hoppas bara att jag ej får problem med BD+, tycker BD+ är skit rent ut sagt. Har en  Blu-ray Sony S300.
Det lär väl visa sig när jag köper en film med BD+...

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Hade det inte spammats så mycket HD DVD sörja i bluray trådarna så hade du kanske sett reviewn som jag lade in i den andra Bluray tråden med texten...

Day after tomorrow

This is definitely a great feature as it shows what the future of Blu-Ray interactivity may be. The only caveat is that the game took a bit to load on my BDP-S300 (about 60 seconds).

Dvs det funkar.

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haha så sjukt nice, när hddvd snackar 51gb snackar BDA 100-200gb, life is harsh!

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Ja precis! Mäktigt med 200gb skivor

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BD + Update info

http://forums.highde...59&postcount=61
http://forums.highde...20&postcount=58
http://www.avsforum....05&postcount=43
http://www.avsforum....69&postcount=48
http://www.avsforum....87#post11791287

I just got off the phone with Samsung and they are now aware of the problem. The new firmware update to fix this will be out in 1-2 weeks.

Matsushita Blu-Ray Devices to Have Longer Recording Times


Tokyo, Oct 2, 2007 (Jiji Press) - Matsushita Electric Industrial Co. <6752> said Tuesday it will launch three new models of Blu-ray disc recorders on Nov. 1, which feature longer recording times than existing models.

Newly developed data compressing technology enables the new models to record high-definition video four times longer than current models. For example, a 50-gigabyte dual-layer disc can record up to 18 hours.

Matsushita expects to sell the new models for 180,000 yen to 300,000 yen.

The company announced the new models at CEATEC Japan electronics trade show held in Chiba, east of Tokyo.

Kanske inte rätt ställe att fråga men, vem använder(få användning av) PiP (Picture in Picture)?

Enligt mig en totalt onödig funktion...lr rättare sagt jag hittar inget direkt användningsområde för det.

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Kanske inte rätt ställe att fråga men, vem använder(få användning av) PiP (Picture in Picture)?

Enligt mig en totalt onödig funktion...lr rättare sagt jag hittar inget direkt användningsområde för det.

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Jag använde det häromdagen! Tjejen ville kolla på TV och jag ville lira PS3 - aktiverade Picture in Picture och drog igång spelet på ena halvan och digitalboxen på andra. Woho

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Kanske inte rätt ställe att fråga men, vem använder(få användning av) PiP (Picture in Picture)?

Enligt mig en totalt onödig funktion...lr rättare sagt jag hittar inget direkt användningsområde för det.

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