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Lost Odyssey™ är berättelsen om Kaim, en odödlig figur som har levt i mer än 1 000 år. Han minns inte sitt förflutna och han vet inte hur hans framtid ser ut.Under Kaims färd får han sällskap av några figurer som följer med honom på en resa för att upptäcka deras invecklade förflutna och deras öde, vilket leder spelarna genom en dramatisk historia i enorm skala.

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Såå vad tror ni om det här spelet?
Blir det ett köp?
Har inte läst så mycket om det tidigare men rollspel är ju alltid intressant
Trailern ser inte så tokig ut heller..Känner att jag börjar bli lite sugen att spela.

Trailer här

Gamerankings

Release datum 2008-02-15

Redigerat av moparman, 22 mars 2008 - 11:52.

[derpious]

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Är det samma spelstil som N9N? Ser ut som det på bilderna, kan inte kolla på trailern, sitter på jobbet.

[Unregisteredf64a5233]

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Finns en massa gameplay-videos på gamersyde.

Man får verkligen retrokänslor när man tittar på spelfilmerna, speciellt puttandet av lådor (samt ljudet när man puttar dem) och det övriga springa omkring och utforska. Även random encounters och fighterna känns standard, däremot vet jag inte om jag gillar Sakaguchis stöld av "Gears Of War"-kamera vi meleeatackerna.

EDIT: Är det bara jag som inte gillar det väldigt överdrivna skärpedjupet i många spel? Lite väl extremt i detta spel.

Verkar bli ett bra JRPG annars, helt i stil med vilket Final Fantasy som helst.

Redigerat av Unregisteredf64a5233, 20 december 2007 - 16:44.

[moparman]

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Såg en boss fight å de såg väl ok ut..Men RE *suckar*
Jag är verkligen less på sånt.

Edit
morlock
Menar du att allt som är längre bort än nån meter blir suddigt?
För så verkar det va när man ser på trailers..Samma var ju i Blue Dragon

Redigerat av moparman, 20 december 2007 - 18:09.

[Zoiler]

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däremot vet jag inte om jag gillar Sakaguchis stöld av "Gears Of War"-kamera vi meleeatackerna.

Kameran aside så tycker jag det är ganska häftigt eftersom det ger en timingeffekt. Tajmar man det bra så gör man högre dmg. Lite av en relik från Shadow Hearts (40 gubbs från teamet som gjorde SH jobbar på Lost Odyssey).

Edit: Waaah:

don't know exactly what you were expecting, but I find the story pretty good. I mean, there's a lot of goofy Shadow Hearts humor in it, which I didn't quite expect but I think a lot of it works

SH hade verkligen bra humor

Edit2:

Mid-game impressions

Current Play Time is 20:24, start of Disc 3.

Overall I'm really enjoying Lost Odyssey. It's not without a fair share of problems though, both technical and story-wise. There are some slight design issues, but overall where the game really shines is in the gameplay. The battle system is fun and well thought out. The battles are pretty traditional, but balanced to be relatively challenging. There are random encounters, and the encounter rate is pretty similar to any other JRPG. Sakaguchi is a dirty liar for promising a low encounter rate.

The character customization options are pretty good, and there are tons of skills to learn from accessories and mortal party members. The ring making system is pretty interesting as well, and adds a certain tactical element to battles since you can change equipment in battles on the fly. There's no harm in making a bunch of rings that give different elemental or racial bonuses since you can swap them during battles depending on the enemies.

The dungeons and towns/cities are really well designed. They look good, and more importantly they play well. Each area has it's own unique little properties and gimmicks, and the puzzles and design logic on the maps and stuff are pretty neat. Areas are sizable and exploring corners or dead ends almost always reward you with items and stuff. The game also has various side events in each town/city and it always feels like there's something extra to do in the game.

Storywise, LO is a mixed bag. On one hand, the cutscenes are pretty well directed and the voice acting in both languages is pretty spot on. The characters are interesting and have unique personalities, and the worldview is pretty interesting and fleshed out. On the other hand, the game never really seems to want to take advantage of this, instead preferring to stay low-key most of the time. Even with the themes of immortals, great empires, betrayals and conspiricies, and high fantasy - the actual story remains muted and chooses instead to focus on more mundane interactions between characters showcasing their personalities and quirks.

A good comparison for this would be FF:TSW and Xenosaga Episode 1. The way the story and presentation is paced is very similar. The cutscenes and events focus more on the character side of things than the larger picture, and it never really tries to take hold of the viewer's attention to make the game more exciting or epic. It's not exactly negative, but it just seems odd that the game keeps throwing in epic otherworldly themes and elements but never really let them take center stage.... or any stage at all. They're just terms and throwaway dialogue pieces.

The Thousand Years of Dreams short stories are really fantastic, and there isn't really anything to say other than it's pretty much one of the best visual novel package I've seen. The way each story's text is presented with the background, text effects, sound and music - it's pretty much perfect in that aspect. Too bad it doesn't really have anything to do with the game. When it's well integrated into the game, the transition from game to visual novel is wonderful, but many a times I just feel that it's kinda forced into the game at certain points. They're always nice to read, but very often they have nothing at all to do with the game or the game's world, which is a little disappointing I guess.

In terms of technical aspects, the game is a lot better than I expected. All texture pop-in issues have been eradicated and there isn't really slowdown while moving around towns and dungeons. Unfortunately the game also has a shitload of LONGASS longing. It's long and there's a lot of it, no two ways around it. While the slowdown doesn't affect the movement part of the game, in battles and in cutscenes it's a whole different issue. Many cutscenes are filled with slowdown that hinder the true intention of the presented scenes, and make the animation seem more unnatural than it actually is. Several battles are also plagued with jerky pans and framedrops when enemy attacks interact with character models. When the slowdown occur, and they occur quite a bit throughout the game, it makes the entire presentation far more amatuerish than it should. It's a pity they couldn't iron out these issues.

I'll keep playing, but most of these observations have been consistant across two discs, so even if anything changes, they still apply for pretty much half the game. I do expect the story to get more interesting, it just isn't as deep and complex as I expected. It's actually rather simplistic, with a ton of offbeat humor injected in the scenes. Interesting combination....

Yees Moparman. Enchanted Arms Flashbacks incoming, AmIright ?

Redigerat av Zoiler, 20 december 2007 - 18:39.

[Unregistereddc471864]

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Hade varit intressant om det varit strider i realtid.
Dessutom avskyr jag random encounters mer än att städa avloppet i min lägenhet!

[moparman]

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Oh lord..Whyyy.whyy..whyy.
Tycker att det verkar va ett helt ok jrpg.
Ok det finns inte många såna till 360 så det blir nog ett köp.

Om det nu inte kommer nå bättre..Jag tycker verkligen inte om re *skriker*
Gör ju att man verkligen inte orkar utforska om man nu inte bara spelar korta stunder eller att striderna är så bra och varierande eller att man verkligen kan hitta nå sällsynta vapen/rustningar så man inte möter 20 re med samma monster för att hitta en kista långt bort i skogen åså är det ett sketet armband man har 40st av

[Zoiler]

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Å den goda sidan så verkar battles vara grädden i spelet, så det kanske inte är så farligt för er som hatar det. De sa också att man inte kan "grinda" i LO och att karaktärerna hålls jämnbra och så (man blir aldrig överlägsen?).. hur det nu funkar.

[moparman]

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Fienderna kanske lvl:ar upp samtidigt som ens grupp?
Tycker dock inte att det verkade så snyggt.
Vist var det samma motor som Gears å Bioshock?

[Zoiler]

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Samma motor ja (fast nu är det ett rollspel så det blir förstås inte riktigt samma sak. De är ju lite större). Men de som har spelat det tycker det är snyggt iallafall, och många av de verkade tycka innan att det inte verkade så snyggt på bilder osv. Laddningstiderna är många och långa tyvärr.

[moparman]

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Ok..

Zoiler kolla in den här official trailer 7..Den var faktiskt inte alls så tokig.

En del gripande ögonblick verkar det som

[Dolph_Lundgren]

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Jag ser fram emot detta spelet otroligt mycket.
framförallt efter att Mass Effect inte riktigt var all that.
blue dragon fick mig att tappa lite faith för mistwalker men den som lever får se.
detta kommer bli det första jp rpg jag spelat sen star ocean the end of time.
(räknar fan inte FFXII, kan någon säga forgettable story och gameplay)

[Zoiler]

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Ok..

Zoiler kolla in den här official trailer 7..Den var faktiskt inte alls så tokig.

En del gripande ögonblick verkar det som

Ser så ut.. ja han sa ju när han utannonserade det att det skulle vara fokuserat på känslor så.. Det ska vara mycket CGI och mellanscener också. Jämförs med Xenosaga: Episode 1 och det är mer eller mindre en film. 4 skivor tror jag spelet är på.

blue dragon fick mig att tappa lite faith för mistwalker men den som lever får se.

Men du hade inte spelat det?

[moparman]

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Joo..Läste igår att Lost Odyssey är på 4 skivor.
Har ju kvar Blue Dragon att spela klart om jag nu får igen min 360 närmaste månaderna..

[Unregistered710b3906]

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Var det inte så att det skulle va typ 40 timmar film eller något i den stilen?

[moparman]

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Läser en preview på ign.com

här

Verkar inte såå positivt.

In the six hours that I've played so far, Lost Odyssey has been a technical mess, with framerate problems in just about every cinema and on most maps, an animation system that looks like it was ported straight from a PS2 engine, and frequent, inconsistent load times accompanied by visual stuttering as new data loads in.

Nu var det den japanska versionen dom testat så man kan väl kanske hoppas att det är lite bättre när de släpps här eller att snubben har fel eller at det kan patchas

[Zoiler]

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Strunta i honom. Det gör alla på GAF

[Dolph_Lundgren]

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Men du hade inte spelat det?

nä visserligen, men ett demo, många ljumma recensioner och vänners åsikter fick mig att inte bry mig om det
när det väl släpptes.

[Zoiler]

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Okej. När det gäller såna långa spel så tycker iallafall inte jag att ett demo kan omfatta spelet (basic moves, men man missar storyn som ofta är viktig i RPG och eventuellt djup i battle). Åsikter är bra, men hade jag lyssnat på exempelvis mångas åsikter angående Enchanted Arms så hade jag missat ett riktigt bra RPG. Brukar vara så med såna här spel att åsikter skiljer sig vida- finns även andra exempel utanför RPG genren som blir lite kultspel. När det gäller Blue Dragon så läser jag om de som dissar det totalt och såna som fullkomligen älskar det. Vill därför spela det själv för att se vad jag tycker.

Men äh, man gör som man vill. Kanske ett spel att plocka upp billigt om några år annars ?

[Unregistered24c8cfe3]

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Jag hatar när fienderna levlar samtidigt som man själv, det får ju känslan av att faktiskt bli mäktigare att fötvina något. Det är för mig det största problemet Oblivion har (tillsammans med ett i övrigt rätt trasigt levlingssystem).

Tycker det vore bättre om man faktiskt kunde stöta på rejält mäktiga fiender redan från början, som man var tvungen att undvika eller överlista, eller svagare när man levlat som man kan mosa ner totalt med en halvmiss. Kanske att sannolikheten ökar att man träffar svårare, ju högre level man får. I Halo, exempelvis, levelar man i och för sig inte, men jag gillar att man stöter på fiender med högre rank som är tuffare, bättre beväpnade osv.

Tanken med levling måste vara att man ska känna sig mäktigare när man går upp i level.

[Zoiler]

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Tycker det vore bättre om man faktiskt kunde stöta på rejält mäktiga fiender redan från början, som man var tvungen att undvika eller överlista, eller svagare när man levlat som man kan mosa ner totalt med en halvmiss. Kanske att sannolikheten ökar att man träffar svårare, ju högre level man får. I Halo, exempelvis, levelar man i och för sig inte, men jag gillar att man stöter på fiender med högre rank som är tuffare, bättre beväpnade osv.

Spela Enchanted Arms då. Där kan du gå tillbaka och känna dig helt övermäktig mot äldre fiender . Och där kan man gå in i grottor som innehåller fiender som man inte har någon chans mot om man inte är tillräckligt levlad.

[moparman]

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Mm om man står ut med att det ploppar upp fiender var 5:e meter ibland

[Zoiler]

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Precis. Fast autobattle och snabba loadingtider underlättar iaf.

[Unregisteredf64a5233]

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LEVEL har recenserat Lost Odyssey, och tyvärr verkar det vara en liten besvikelse. Minst sagt.

De första minuterna representerar vad hela Lost Odyssey ska komma tt handla om - minnen av en förfluten tid och insikten om att ingenting, inte ens ett beprövat gammalt stridssystem, bör leva för evigt.

Ett storslaget manus under en amatörmässig yta.

Spoiler

6/10

Lost Odyssey är lika naivt som det är patetiskt.

Spoiler

5/10

[Zoiler]

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LEVEL har recenserat Lost Odyssey, och tyvärr verkar det vara en liten besvikelse. Minst sagt.

Det var synd å LEVELs skull att de inte gillade det. Dessbättre finns det flera andra som gör det (och då menar jag inte bara recensenter utan annat folk som spelat spelet):

Weekly Famitsu: 9/9/9/9 (36/40)
Famitsu Xbox360: 10/8/9/8 (35/40)

first Europe review from "360"

"...Although the game world is in a state of upheaval, Lost Odyssey cleverly makes Kaim's own existence the central theme of the game -what happens in the world is important, but nothing as crucial as discovering more about Kaim, his thousand-year past, and his apparently endless future."

"Kaim is quite a cold character too, and he doesn't seem impressed with those around him; he seems like an outsider, and that makes the player feel like an outsider. It's a clever trick, setting Lost Odyssey apart from 'funkier' Japanese RPGs. This one is primarily for older players."

On Thousand Years of Dreams > "Sometimes the text of these dreams is spliced with moving images of Kaim's past actions. It all works to great effect, and it makes for a much more interesting non-playable hook than the half-assed cut-scenes of lesser games... Lost Odyssey is the 360's most interesting application of non-game-related source material to date."

"The four dics each hold around ten hours' worth of play, and many minutes of voiced dialogue and cut-scenes, so Lost Odyssey can be regarded as an epic. And there's also the surreptitious delivery of 'A Thousand Years of Dreams', which can be viewed as a digital book in it's own right. In terms of play for pound (or dollars if you're American), Lost Odyssey is more generous than most."

Summary > "Definitely a story well told and a reasonably well produced RPG, Lost Odyssey is rooted in the genre's traditions but ultimately succeeds thanks to the strength of it's fantastic storytelling. Battles are satisfyingly difficult and there's four discs' worth of game to play through. It can be a bit heavy, a bit like 'War and Peace', but Lost Odyssey is well worth a look if you're after a Japanese RPG with staying power."

Final Score Given: 4 stars out of 5

Story, Characters, and Writing
Bebpo: C
It's bad, and even more illogical than most j-rpgs with the worst villian ever, but at the end of the day the 20 hours of cutscenes are well directed and entertaining so you're never bored. Premise is great, worldview is interesting, but cast is bland and maybe Inoue was not the right man to make them. One thing I did like was the theme of family. It's not seen to often in rpgs outside Grandia 3.

duckroll: C-
Definitely the weakest link in the game. For all the potential in a story about a man who has lived a thousand years, the story sure seemed like just another big fun happy adventure ride. I really don't think there were 20 hours of cutscenes, but there were indeed quite a lot, and they were all pretty hilarious - often for the wrong reasons. The villains and set pieces in the game are what really drag the game down, aside from the generic one-dimension characters. The actual dialogue seemed to be making the best out of a bad scenario, which is overall unfortunate because the premise deep down is pretty strong and unique.

1000 years of dreams
Bebpo: A+
The "1000 year dreams" are visual text novels written by good authors and almost all excellent tales lasting 10-15 minute with nice music in the background. Although most of them don't really connect to the main game's plot. They're a nice bonus to have on the disc to read and enjoy. Quality entertainment that gets an A+ from me.

duckroll: A+
The difference between an actual accomplished novelist and a videogame writer is never seen in such contrast as in this game. While the game's actual scenario and script fail to hit the mark, the short stories that chronicle Kaim's past hit it totally out of the park. Everything from the actual writing, the concepts of each story and the actual implementation of the text, sound, music and background imagery connect to present the reader with unforgettable experiences in storytelling on a visual medium. This is both a boon and curse to the game because while the viewer will be left very impressed with each story, it also leaves much to be desired from the actual story of the game - which sadly never quite delivers on any level.

General Gameplay
Bebpo: B+
LO's other name is Shadow Hearts 4, because with most of the SH team that's what it is. At its best, the game is up there with the best moments of SH2 with excellent puzzle dungeons that are half rpg, half Resident Evil. At it's worst it's like the bad parts of SH3 with confusing dungeons and annoying encounters. While it's nice to have a world map, I'd hate to live in the LO world of rocky nothing which pales in comparison to the amazing world of Blue Dragon or even older PS2 rpgs.

duckroll: A
I really enjoyed the overall gameplay in Lost Odyssey. The dungeons and towns definitely reminded me of the better parts of Shadow Hearts, with really smart use of obstacles and puzzles in the dungeons. I feel the cities are what give the game an edge over most other RPGs, because they're really well designed and large enough to feel like actual cities. The world map itself is quite a downer, but I loved the modes of transportation in the game. Considering how barren the map itself is though, I wonder if that was one of the reasons they went with a menu based map overall.

Bebpo: Yes, the towns were very nice, though I personally didn't like the bigger sprawling cities. It just took too long to keep running several screens into a city for sidequests. While you do have a very nice super fast run, it's still a lot of ground and loading and there are a ridiculous number of sidequests in each city so you'll visit them quite a bit.

Battle System
Bebpo: B
The ring system, GC system and skill system are innovative and very cool and fun. The ring is a step back from SH, but it's still nice to have instead of just selecting commands. However, the system balance is broken beyond belief in the later stages. The game is challenging at the start but then gets progressively easier each boss until the endgame bosses and enemies do 0 damage against you and you kill them in 2 hits (I died on the first two bosses and then never again). It's basically the opposite of BD which was pretty easy until the endgame where it had some fun challenge. Also it's worth noting that the battle speed is Xenosaga ep1 level of SLOW. Expect to spend 3-5 minutes in each battle even if you finish them in 2 rounds.

duckroll: B+
The systems are well designed, and for most of the game pretty balanced. The Judgement Ring in Shadow Hearts is definitely a more indepth battle system, but I have a feeling they simplified it because they wanted to focus on the other systems, which seems like what the game is really based around anyway. Balance-wise I felt the game was very well tuned for most of the game, but towards the end it does get exceedingly broken. I found the battles fun but what the game really lacks are super bosses. The optional bosses available in the game far exceed Blue Dragon's in variety and design, but fall flat on the challenge overall. The battles are indeed slow though, they're time consuming and if you're not in the right mood it can be quite a strain on the experience especially with the encounters being random.

Graphics
Bebpo: A-
Would have been A+ if not for the performance issues such as the stuttering when a battle first starts or at random times when streaming. This is the best looking rpg ever made no doubt, especially in the battles. The art design carried over from SH is impeccable and seeing SH type enemies with UE3.0 graphics and DQ/BD level animation is amazing. Attacks and spells have the flash that was missing from BD. CG FMVs look amazing, especially with Ohsawa's great art design.

duckroll: A
Excellent monster designs, environments looked great and each area had a rather unique look. Outside of several generic areas where there was massive asset reuse, overall the game comes off as a very next-gen JRPG. The textures, the modeling and the animations are really finely crafted. The team put tons of attend into the detail of settings, backgrounds and even idle animations for monsters. Many of the settings are really good, and several key scenes look really fantastic visually. Various technical issues result minor annoyances that prevent the game from being the benchmark it could be, but that doesn't take away from the fact that this is one fantastic looking game.

Bebpo: Just wanted to agree that the idling animations are fantastic in battle. So much detail was put into the battle animations.

Music
Bebpo: B+
It's a good soundtrack, but outside a handful of tracks it's not very memorable at all. The town themes sound EXACTLY like SH2 town themes, which makes no sense considering the composer is different. The main theme is A+, but overall I preferred BD's soundtrack, especially the vocal songs with suck here but were cute in BD (marumaru dance; birthday song).

duckroll: B
First I'll have to say, the main theme for Lost Odyssey is probably the best videogame musical track I've heard in many years. It is a sweeping piece piece that invokes feelings of grandeur and really builds the mood. Unfortunately it's not only the best piece of music in the game, but the really the only truly memoriable tune. The best tracks in the game are all varients of the main theme. Most of the music is pretty competent and it is by no means a bad or even mediocre soundtrack. It just fails to be great because there isn't much attachment to most of the pieces. I do feel the scenario is to share to blame though, it's hard to find musical themes memoriable when you find it hard to care for much of what is going on.

Bebpo: Man, the final boss song...lol. BD's was almost Uematsu's one winged angel follow-up. LO is....yeah....

Loading
Bebpo: F
I timed the loading from battle transition to when your menu pops up to select commands...20 fucking seconds. LO will be known forever as the game that made me hate random encounters even though I'd been fine with them for decades now. When you're trying to solve a puzzle and BAM encounter and sit for 20 seconds -> 3-5 minute battle -> puzzle it's annoying. Imagine being on a balance log on that happens and you come back suddenly 5 mins later and have to keep your balance. Random encounters only work when there is almost no loading like the handheld FFs or SMT games since you can get them over with and get back to the game real quick. There's a lot of other loading, but really it's the encounter loading that drove me insane by the end when backtracking through the entire game again for sidequests. If there was EVER a game that needed a "no encounter" accessory it was this; but nope, not here.

duckroll: D-
Yeah, the loading is bad. There're no two ways around it. Everything from areas, to battles, to the goddamn fucking SAVE SCREEN is loading loading loading loading loading. I wasn't that bothered by the random encounters taking ages to load because I probably went nuts and got used to it, but there were several other issues that really bugged me. Sometimes if you prepare a mega spell, and it's set to go off after the normal attackers, the spell animation won't load in time. So Kaim will slash an enemy, and he'll stand there for 3 seconds just waiting. It looks retarded and is really embarassing for the game engine. The other issue that drove me insane was the save reading code. It's probably the worst code for reading a list of saves ever. The more saves you have, the longer it takes to load. The game gives you a total of 20 slots, so by the end I had like 17, and it was taking half a minute to a minute to load just the listing of saves. Actual saving would take a second, but then after that they would have to READ THE GODDAMN LIST AGAIN before you can return to the menu. Two minutes to save a fucking game..... ARGHARGAHGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!

Lasting Appeal
Bebpo: A
Main game is about 40-45 hours long, plenty of optional bonus dungeons (like SH1-3 and BD) give it a boost to 55-65. If you are an utter completionist who spends 100 hours in FFX or BD, expect a good 80 hour+ game. All in all, a great amount of content for an rpg.

duckroll: A
It's hard to argue with a RPG that lasts over 60 hours and provides good entertainment all the way. There are lots of optional quests along the way and a whole lot more open up at the end. The rewards for almost everything in the game are pretty solid, so you never really feel you're wasting your time scouting out an entire dungeon or doing a fetch quest for a citizen. The optional quests and collectathons in the game should be enough to satisfy pretty much any JRPG gamer.

Overall
Bebpo: B+
In a word? It's a SH game that's worse than SH2 by a good deal but better than SH3 by a small amount. While the gameplay gets broken and the story is silly, the game is fun to play (outside a few spots) and fun to watch for a good 50+ hours. The best parts of the game are horror areas straight out of SH. If you've never played a SH game before and you play and enjoy LO, immediately go run and buy SH1-3 and you will be the happiest person on earth for a month or two while you play them.

duckroll: B
I don't really feel much of the SH comparisons outside of the visuals, but I do think that Lost Odyssey is a pretty enjoyable but flawed RPG. When it delivers, it really delivers, but when it doesn't it really feels like there's a lot of wasted potential. We'll never know what it would be like if the game had a better engine without loading, or if the scenario had better writers. It's unfortunate that the game never reached it's full potential, but what remains is still a pretty solid title. While the game is plagued by problems both technical and design-wise, it's still an incredible look game with great visuals and fun gameplay.

Just finished the game... 97 hrs on the clock and I still only have 980/1000 gamerscore. The last one "get all the items" is going to be a real pain. I don't know if I have the patience for it - it would basically involve searching every nook and cranny of every area that is still reachable before the final boss fight :/

I don't have the energy to join the cross review shenanigans right now, but I would certainly give the game a B+ overall. I agree with Bebpo and duckroll on almost every point, but it's hard to decide whether this or BD has better music. They both have some outstanding songs and some forgettable songs, but overall I'd probably have to rate them evenly.

I think it will do well in the west, compared to BD. Hope they can improve the technical issues a little bit, though. I wonder if there will be a sequel

I'm playing through the game right now. I'm lvl 33, at 21ish hours on disc 3 at the moment and I am really loving it.

I totally disagree with the comments about the game having a bad story. It has one of the most interesting stories in any JRPG I have personally played in the recent years and to say it has a worse story than Blue Dragon is just crazy. I loved Blue Dragon, but the story was easily the worst part of the game.

I will admit that Lost Odyssey's story does take a while to pick up (it starts getting good around the end of disc 2 imo...), but I find it very interesting. I understand a lot of people are disappointed that the game doesn't deal with the story on a larger scale and only really tells the story of the main characters, but I don't really think that's a bad thing. I find the story easily as good as most Final Fantasy games and unless the game's story really turns to shit from here on out, I don't see why Lost Odyssey gets so much hate over its story. I don't think the enemy character is all that bad, either. He is certainly more compelling than Blue Dragon's Nene in my opinion.

Even if you don't like the main story, the short "1000 dreams" stories are completely awesome. I don't think I have ever been so "moved" by video game stories before. I realize they were written by a famous author, but I usually don't expect this kind of writing quality from a video game. I hope they translate over into English fairly well.

I'll comment more on the game when I'm finished, but I am really liking it so far.

LEVELs kommentarer ger inte så mycket dessvärre. Patetiskt och naivt? Och stridssystemet och tillbakablickarna är iofs det som fått bäst kritik av övriga som spelat det, men ok. Förväntade de sig att LO skulle revolutionera stridssystemet månntro?

Näe, från de intryck jag har äst så verkar det helt klart vara ett storslaget RPG med en del skavanker. LEVEL kanske har tröttnat på JRPG.

[Unregisteredf64a5233]

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LEVEL kanske har tröttnat på JRPG.

Du får läsa hela recensionen.

Bjarneby är mig veterligen världens största FF f-boy så han kanske är sur på Sakaguchi för att ha snott så mycket från FF och behållt så mycket från sina egna gamla FF.

Det visar sig väl senare när de övriga proffstyckarnas dom ramlar in. Kan man gissa på ett GR-snitt på 70%?

Redigerat av Unregisteredf64a5233, 27 januari 2008 - 18:45.

[Zoiler]

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LEVEL kanske har tröttnat på JRPG.

Du får läsa hela recensionen.

Ge en länk då

Det visar sig väl senare när de övriga proffstyckarnas dom ramlar in. Kan man gissa på ett GR-snitt på 70%?

Det vore ju sämre än Blue Dragon och Enchanted Arms. Av vad jag fårstått så är det bättre än båda dem.

[Unregisteredf64a5233]

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Ge en länk då

http://loading.se/su...e.php?mag=level

[Upp_o_ner]

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Lost Odyssey finns för 34 euro (50$) vilket blir cirka 320 svenska kronor (lägg på 30 för frakt) på http://www.play-asia...en-70-2iys.html .Det är japansk version men spelet är på engelska & funkar i pal-maskiner. (Notera "Back-ordered" så det är inte i lager för tillfället).

Själv väntar jag tills Gamereactor har kommit med sin recension (den är klar behöver bara skrivas till webb enligt bloggen).

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"There's a lot of other loading, but really it's the encounter loading that drove me insane by the end when backtracking through the entire game again for sidequests. If there was EVER a game that needed a "no encounter" accessory it was this; but nope, not here."

Hmm..Låter inte riktigt bra..Jag kan klara av RE om dom iaf är fort avklarade men ska man ha en massa laddtider ovanpå det så vettetusan..

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Hmm..Låter inte riktigt bra..Jag kan klara av RE om dom iaf är fort avklarade men ska man ha en massa laddtider ovanpå det så vettetusan..

Det är laddningstiderna som verkar vara det sämsta med spelet. Inte kul, men bara till att bita ihop (för mig). Du kanske inte borde köpa det med tanke på.. hur mycket du gillade Enchanted Arms

Edit: Fyndigt Morlock. Som om jag skulle betala för den blaskan

Redigerat av Zoiler, 27 januari 2008 - 21:38.

[moparman]

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Mm...Njaaoo.
Men är det en riktigt bra story kan jag härda ut mycket och eftersom det finns så få rpg och det finns rätt många dagar till nya FF kommer så har man väl inte så stort val

[Donmeta]

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Fantastiskt att en liten svensk tidning , level, kan få ihop till en recension av ett spel innan någon annan i västvärlden gör det. Det finns iallafall 0 recensioner listade på gameranking (och nä av någon anledning listar de inte level där .


Men även om nu det var duktigt jobbat så väntar jag nog på fler riktiga recensioner istället (alltså recensioner skrivna av folk som faktiskt spelat fullverionen av spelet...).


Kul att Lost Odyssey får bra recensioner i Japan.

[rayko]

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"There's a lot of other loading, but really it's the encounter loading that drove me insane by the end when backtracking through the entire game again for sidequests. If there was EVER a game that needed a "no encounter" accessory it was this; but nope, not here."

Hmm..Låter inte riktigt bra..Jag kan klara av RE om dom iaf är fort avklarade men ska man ha en massa laddtider ovanpå det så vettetusan..

Du köpte en Playstion 3 läste jag att du sa någonstans.Har du sålt din 360 nu eller?

[moparman]

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Yepp har köpt en PS3..Riktigt nöjd..Helst över avsaknaden av en orkan

Närå nog har jag kvar 360..Skönt att ha alla konsoler så man inte missar nå

[ShaManIX]

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Naaah, turn-based RPG går bort för min del.

[Zoiler]

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Kolla på den här TV-reklamen och säg att det ser patetiskt och naivt ut

http://youtube.com/watch?v=3w1Ry4NbPcc

Eller:

http://www.gametrail...ayer/30163.html

Redigerat av Zoiler, 01 februari 2008 - 14:20.

[moparman]

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Verkar som att jag måste gå i hypnos för att klara av ett spel till med RE

[Unregisteredf64a5233]

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Såg den där spoten tidigare, ser ju helt OK ut. Men det gjorde ju trailern till LAIR också...

[Zoiler]

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En 8 av IGN AU:

http://xbox360.ign.c...9/849907p3.html

8.0 Presentation
The nondescript menu system is wholly JRPG in tradition. Clean, effective, easy to follow. Overall, the game also keeps UI to a minimum.
9.0 Graphics
Outstanding almost every respect - art direction, animation, textures, lighting. It is, unfortunately, hampered by framerate and screen-tearing.
7.0 Sound
Although the voice-acting is mostly solid, the score is forgettable. The environmental audio is excellent, however.
7.5 Gameplay
It all works - despite AI and balancing issues - but the real problem isn't the gameplay itself, but the concepts behind. It's all been done before.
9.0 Lasting Appeal
It's monsterously large, coming on four DVDs and more hours than is probably healthy - which is a good thing for JRPG fans. There's a lot of gameplay for your buck.

Score is forgettable my ass. Titellåten är grym.

[Unregisteredf64a5233]

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Score is forgettable my ass. Titellåten är grym.

Man lyssnar inte direkt på titellåten genom hela spelet. Var kan man höra den btw?

Dock låter det osannolikt att Nobuo Uematsu skulle skriva ett dåligt soundtrack, har ju aldrig hänt förr.

Redigerat av Unregisteredf64a5233, 06 februari 2008 - 11:42.

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Man lyssnar inte direkt på titellåten genom hela spelet. Var kan man höra den btw?

Den återkommer genom spelet fast i omgjord version eller varianter av stycken ur den.

Main Theme

Battle Theme är också helt fantastisk enligt mig.

Som du hör så är temat lite samma i main och battle theme.

Game Intro

Jag kan inte klaga på musiken iaf. Jag gillar den typen. FFX hade också grym musik.

Även IGN verkade förvänta sig att de skulle revolutionera gameplayet, vilket är rätt svårt i ett JRPG (dock vet jag inte om någon karaktär har varit odödlig förut?). Battle har Shadow Hearts influenser (många som jobbade på det spelet jobbade på detta) som bygger på timing, och eftersom SH var ett av de bästa rollspelen till PS2 så vet jag att jag kommer digga det också.

Anyway, forgettable score? Jag har inte ens spelat spelet och kommer ändå ihåg den

[Dolph_Lundgren]

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måste säga att main intro är bland det bästa Nobuo Uematsu gjort.
och då är jag ett stort fan redan, har tom tour the japon på min Ipod...smyg-Geek..host host.

ser fram emot att sätta tänderna i ett klassiskt Japansk Rpg.
ska även (konstigt nog) bli lite kul med RE.!?.
har faktiskt inte stött på det i ett spel sen FFX-2..and im all about oldschool...ibland

[Zoiler]

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ska även (konstigt nog) bli lite kul med RE.!?.
har faktiskt inte stött på det i ett spel sen FFX-2..and im all about oldschool...ibland

Det ska tydligen vara ganska låg encounterrate dessutom.

http://xbox360.ign.c...9/849927p1.html

6.5 Presentation
The story is so-so, the menus look ancient and the loading screens never seem to stop.
8.0 Graphics
Excellent enemy design and attractive special effects. The framerate is distracting at times.
7.5 Sound
A good soundtrack, but mediocre voice acting.
8.5 Gameplay
Though it's very traditional, the ring-building and skill system are highly addictive. Turn-based combat is actually fun.
8.0 Lasting Appeal
The four discs will last you anywhere from 35-50 hours, depending on your thoroughness. There's not much reason to go back once the quest is finished.
8.2
Impressive OVERALL
(out of 10 / not an average)

IGN US alltså. Kul... de tyckte tvärtom med ljudet och hyllade gameplay.. men gav inte lika högt i grafik och hållbarhet

[Dolph_Lundgren]

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IGN US alltså. Kul... de tyckte tvärtom med ljudet och hyllade gameplay.. men gav inte lika högt i grafik och hållbarhet

Dom gav FFVII 2.0 i Lasting Appeal (PC)
så 8.0 måste ju ses som sjukt bra!

[Unregistered710b3906]

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http://www.gametrail...ayer/30354.html

Lost Odyssey Review på gametrailers, väldigt fin recension, har blivit lite hypad igen

Spoiler

DESIGN 8.0
STORY 9.6
GAMEPLAY 8.3
PRESENTATION 9.5
OVERALL 8.8

[derpious]

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IGN US alltså. Kul... de tyckte tvärtom med ljudet och hyllade gameplay.. men gav inte lika högt i grafik och hållbarhet

Dom gav FFVII 2.0 i Lasting Appeal (PC)
så 8.0 måste ju ses som sjukt bra!

hur gör du dina citeringar egentligen Dolph

[Zoiler]

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http://www.gametrail...ayer/30354.html

Lost Odyssey Review på gametrailers, väldigt fin recension, har blivit lite hypad igen

Spoiler

DESIGN 8.0
STORY 9.6
GAMEPLAY 8.3
PRESENTATION 9.5
OVERALL 8.8

Nice

[Unregisteredf64a5233]

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Det visar sig väl senare när de övriga proffstyckarnas dom ramlar in. Kan man gissa på ett GR-snitt på 70%?

Får nog revidera upp det till 85%. LEVEL verkar tycka rätt olikt motför de övriga som recenserat hittils.

[Zoiler]

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85 är nog några procent för högt skulle jag gissa på. Level suger som sagt var. Superplay -> Reset -> Level. Superplay gav Smash Bros 6/10. Det medför automatiskt att jag aldrig litar på dem i framtiden någonsin

Vad tyckte du om låtarna Morlock?

Edit: För övrigt gillar jag skeppet man åker runt med senare:

Redigerat av Zoiler, 07 februari 2008 - 11:46.