Blu-ray - Nyheter och Rykten

Sony Pictures has openly invited Toshiba and Microsoft to join the Blu-ray Disc Association.
5 September 2007 9:00 GMT

The comment above comes from Don Eklund, executive vice president of advanced technologies and Rich Marty, vice president, new business development, after Pocket-lint asked which companies they would most like to have in the Association, following the announcement from Acer that it would start to sell PCs with Blu-ray drives.

"We would love to have Toshiba and Microsoft on board," said Don Eklund in an interview with Pocket-lint at IFA in Berlin, Germany.

The IFA event saw an official announcement from Toshiba and the HD DVD Promotion Group about the lowering of prices for both HD DVD stand-alone players as well as for laptops with HD DVD drives, trying to fight the format war on price points.

Eklund and Marty questioned Toshiba's pricing strategy; "Tosh can't keep dropping prices much more," said Eklund. "It maybe a strategy for fighting a format war, but for us it has to be profitable."

According to the vice president of technologies he'd: "Never thought the price was an issue... when it comes to investing in a state of the art entertainment system with HD-Ready television and surround sound system, having to spend a bit extra to get Blu-ray, we feel, isn't going to drive customers away. It's the bigger picture we are looking at."

That apparent naivety is why, according to the Blu-ray camp, players are considerably more expensive than their HD DVD counterparts, because they have to be profitable, and it seems that DVD no longer offered that kind of attractive bottom line.

"The DVD format was good, but profitability only lasted for a couple of years before there was no money to be had in the hardware market," said Marty. "We believe consumers are smart enough to realise the benefits and pay the extra accordingly."

When questioned on the internet, and the potential for the format war to be eclipsed entirely by movie downloads, sounding like music execs from the turn of the last century, both Eklund and Marty dismissed the potential of the internet:

"People aren't interested in downloading videos at the moment. The internet is a good way of delivering music but not video," said Eklund. "Blu-ray has a good 8 to 10 years before the internet catches up."

And as for how consumers are supposed to get around the Dreamworks and Paramount shift to HD DVD? "Buy it on DVD," Marty suggested - before quickly adding that Blu-ray players have upscaling features so you can still get the most out of the picture quality.


Källa: pocket-lint.co.uk

kan ju vara så att pip kommer att fungera på äldre/nuvarande spelare också tack vare bättre utvecklar verktyg tillgängligt eller/plus genom firmware uppdatering

Redigerat av Scrapanatchi, 05 September 2007 - 15:23.

Knappast troligt.
Saknas nödvändig hårdvara i dagens spelare, PS3 dock...

Zodiac
http://www.moviezoo....970110470#cover

Zodiac

Den ser vi sannerligen fram emot!

Heh, la den i fel tråd, en modd får gärna flytta till filmtråden.

Sony Electronics has introduced the HES-V1000, a 200-disc Blu-ray media center. The unit feature a 500GB hard drive to store digital media like music and photos, all available through a XMB cross-bar menu system, same as the one found on the PS3. The HES-V1000 will be available in October for approximately $3,500.

http://www.blu-ray.com/news/?id=476

Pressreleasen på den där mediaservern.

SONY ORGANIZES DIGITAL WORLD WITH HOME ENTERTAINMENT SERVER

Device Features 500GB Hard Drive, 200 Blu-ray Disc/DVD/CD Changer


DENVER (CEDIA Booth #600), Sept. 5, 2007 - Sony Electronics today unveiled an innovative  solution for organizing personal collections of digital movies, music and photos in a stand-alone device called the HES-V1000  Home Entertainment Server.

The unit features a full HD 1080p 200-disc Blu-ray Disc™/DVD/CD changer (196 12cm BD/DVD/CDs and four 8cm BD/DVDs) and 500GB hard disc drive that can store up to 137 hours of video, 40,000 songs or 20,000 digital photos.  Additionally, the device is Sony’s first Blu-ray Disc-capable component other than a VAIO® notebook or optical PC drive that can burn content to Blu-ray Discs, as well as DVDs.
“With its extraordinary storage capacity, the HES-V1000 unit is the perfect device to store and share personal digital content, such as high-definition home movies and photos,” said Christopher Fawcett, vice president of home video marketing for Sony Electronics.  “Not only can you burn photo slide shows and home movies directly to BD or DVD to share with friends and family, the device’s massive storage capacity allows you to house an entire collection of movies, digital music and photos.”

In addition to its vast playback and storage capabilities, the HES-V1000 unit offers Sony’s new x-Application® feature that includes x-Pict Story™ HD and x-ScrapBook™ photo slide show so users can create customized photo presentations with the click of the remote.

x-Pict Story HD utilizes unique layouts with sophisticated face-recognition technology and syncs transitions with music selected from personal content libraries to create a unique photo slide presentation.

x-ScrapBook offers a compelling slide show that the device automatically arranges in a very fast timeframe to explore memories in a  personalized digital scrapbook.  Users can also export both types of slide shows to Blu-ray Discs or DVDs to share with family and friends.

Featuring Sony’s Technical Emmy award-winning XMBTM (XrossMediaBar) menu, the system offers easy set up and content navigation.  Additionally, when the system is connected to the Internet via Ethernet or an optional wireless adapter (sold separately), it accesses commercial CD, DVD and Blu-ray Disc movie and music metadata for discs housed or stored in the device, making it fast and easy enjoy content. While connected to the Internet via Ethernet, users can also download any firmware updates directly to the system.

The HES-V1000 system can play back music stored on the hard disk drive.  It has the ability to wirelessly stream music throughout the home with a router to other devices, including Sony’s CPF-IX001 wireless music player and other Digital Living Network Alliance (DLNA)-compatible wireless devices, such as PLAYSTATION® 3 (PS3) videogame console and select VAIO notebook computers.  The system can register up to ten devices with four independent audio streams.

Storage, playback and archiving abilities are not the only features users will appreciate.  The new device has a stylish design featuring a mirror black tower measuring about 12 1/4 x 31 5/8 x 15 7/8 inches.  The cabinet’s integrated controls are all backlit touch sensitive. The displays can either be read from the front or top of the tower.

Connectivity is generous with S-video, composite, audio and HDV/DV (i.LINK®) inputs, as well as HDMI™ with BRAVIA Theatre Sync, component, optical, coaxial and analog outputs.  The unit also features Memory Stick® media inputs, Secure Digital cards, CompactFlash media and xD-Picture CardTM flash memory readers, allowing easy transfer of digital image content.

The HES-V1000 Home Entertainment Server will be available in October for about $3,500. It will be offered direct at sonystyle.com and at Sony Style retail stores nationwide, as well as at military base exchanges and authorized dealers around the country.

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IFA 2007: JVC Blu-ray Player

In JVC's hall at IFA we found a new Blu-ray player prototype that we haven't seen before. Although JVC had a lot of people there, nobody was able to say anything about the specs for the player or its release date and pricing. We did however take the time to snap a few photos of the player and its remote control.

JVC overview



JVC's Blu-ray player




Remote control



Källa: Blu-ray.com/

Tack för infon Addex!

Så ska "ju" en spelare se ut (personlig åsikt). Tänk om designavd. hos Denon också hade kunnat inse detta...

Redigerat av Unregistered52a88696, 06 September 2007 - 16:49.

Denons spelare är grymt porriga
Spelare och förstärkare ska vara feeeta, så är det bara

Tur att smak, i de flesta samhällen, är ngt som är valfritt...

Håller med dig Razter. Minns med glädje min gamla Pioneer dv717, vilken underbar känsla när man första gången plockade upp, typ åtta kilo dvd ur kartongen.....Aaaaaaaahgh my precius

Alienware's Hangar18:HD 1080p media server announced at CEDIA



Alienware -- always at the forefront of rocking your ever-loving world -- has delved deeper into the media server fray with its new Hangar18:HD high definition home media center announced today at CEDIA. Apparently the "higher end" media center we mentioned last month is rearing it's power-heavy head in the form of this new HD server. The Monster of Media (our pet name) rocks up to 4TB of hot-swappable hard drive storage, a built-in Blu-ray player / burner, recording and playback at 1080p (output via HDMI), support for an internal CableCARD (OCUR), and a Dolby Digital 7.1 preamp output. Alienware promises that the Hangar18:HD will, "Crush and dismember all other media centers," and further recommends a titanium table to place the unit atop since other materials, "can't handle the hotness." It should be noted that these last two statements have been fabricated, though this is kind of a sweet box. No word on price or availability, but we'll keep you posted.

Källa: Engadget.com

Redigerat av Addex, 06 September 2007 - 18:10.

Denons spelare är grymt porriga
Spelare och förstärkare ska vara feeeta, så är det bara

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Agree, Denons spelare är sjukt feta! Ser verkligen fram emot att kika närmare på dem

Blu-ray stand-alones har börjat gå förbi HD-DVD stand-alones:

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Although it's the type of news we'd expect to see accompanied by a huge press release, Sony apparently revealed Wednesday that stand-alone Blu-ray players have begun out-selling their HD DVD counterparts.

As reported by Video Business, the revelation came during Sony's CEDIA press conference, when Sony VP Chris Fawcett said that within the last 12 weeks, Blu-ray players had pulled out ahead of HD DVD.

Låter fint det!

Blu-ray stand-alones har börjat gå förbi HD-DVD stand-alones:

Låter fint det!

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Annars verkar det gå rätt trögt överlag enligt Sony.

Sony Inadvertedly Reveals Declining BD Sales

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MVH
/Chuck

Redigerat av Chuck, 06 September 2007 - 18:35.

edit
http://www.avsforum....ad.php?t=901126

Redigerat av diabolo, 06 September 2007 - 19:33.

http://www.dailytech...spx?newsid=8764 ? Hmm, intressant.

Redigerat av diabolo, 06 September 2007 - 19:30.

Angående att blu-ray spelare tar in direkt länk:
http://www.videobusi...cleid=CA6467868

Redigerat av Scrapanatchi, 06 September 2007 - 19:39.

Blu-ray stand-alones har börjat gå förbi HD-DVD stand-alones:

highdefdigest

Although it's the type of news we'd expect to see accompanied by a huge press release, Sony apparently revealed Wednesday that stand-alone Blu-ray players have begun out-selling their HD DVD counterparts.

As reported by Video Business, the revelation came during Sony's CEDIA press conference, when Sony VP Chris Fawcett said that within the last 12 weeks, Blu-ray players had pulled out ahead of HD DVD.

Låter fint det!

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Sony jämför ju inte antal enheter som sålts, utan dollar. Så klart om en BD-spelare för 1000$ sålts så motsvarar det 5 HD-A2 för 200$... Går inte lita på statistik från något av hållen.

Edit. Statistik är som sagt meningslöst om de inte anger enhet samt antal. % kan ju fan vara på vad som helst.

Redigerat av Hoff, 06 September 2007 - 20:13.

Sony jämför ju inte antal enheter som sålts, utan dollar. Så klart om en BD-spelare för 1000$ sålts så motsvarar det 5 HD-A2 för 200$... Går inte lita på statistik från något av hållen.

Edit. Statistik är som sagt meningslöst om de inte anger enhet samt antal. % kan ju fan vara på vad som helst.

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+ om det är sold or shipped units. Men som du säger Hoff "Går inte lita på statistik från något av hållen"

OT. Apropå statistik....

Såhär brukar jag förklara för mina studenter:

"Statistik är som en bikini. Den visar det mesta men inte det väsentligaste."

OT. Apropå statistik....

Såhär brukar jag förklara för mina studenter:

"Statistik är som en bikini. Den visar det mesta men inte det väsentligaste."

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Haha Klockrent!

Pioneer BDP-95FD BluRay Player

http://www.engadget....blu-ray-player/

Rätt intressanta specs



/Aure

Redigerat av Unregistered1193, 06 September 2007 - 21:11.

Sony gives kid who saved dad's life a PS3

You might have seen a story floating around earlier this month about an Oregon nine-year-old who took the wheel of his dad's big rig and steered it to safety after the father suffered a seizure and blacked out. Well, the kid, Matt Lovo, said all he wanted in return for his heroics was a new Playstation 3, and after the dad rebuffed a community effort to pitch in and buy one, Sony stepped in a donated a unit. Big ups to Sony for the generosity and to Matt for his bravery -- we hear he's planning on installing the console in the truck, so maybe the vibrations from the engine will make up for that lack of rumble.

Källa: Engadget.com

Marantz BD8002

Marantz BD8002

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PHAT!

MARANTZ !!!! gief gief

Kan va den fulaste spelare jag nånsin sett............................................

Äntligen ....den är min!!!

Kan va den fulaste spelare jag nånsin sett............................................

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Tror det är en prototyp. Blu-ray loggan ser ut som en billig dekal. Jag tror den slutgiltiga varianten kommer vara lika snygg som deras övriga sortiment.

Tycker den, i stort, ser ut som deras övriga sortiment - ser jag personligen inget fel med iofs.

Tycker också den liknar vanliga serien. Marantz göra fina prylar, har själv en SR7500(dags för uppgradering dock)

Redigerat av Unregistered992, 07 September 2007 - 09:46.

Blu-ray Standalone Players Out-Selling HD DVD

Although it's the type of news we'd expect to see accompanied by a huge press release, Sony apparently revealed Wednesday that stand-alone Blu-ray players have begun out-selling their HD DVD counterparts.
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As reported by Video Business, the revelation came during Sony's CEDIA press conference, when Sony VP Chris Fawcett said that within the last 12 weeks, Blu-ray players had pulled out ahead of HD DVD.

According to the Video Business report, Fawcett cited NPD Group research for the data, but declined to declined to provide exact market share percentages of the two sides. Fawcett is said to have attributed the surge as mostly due to the introduction of Sony's $499 player in early June.

Although Blu-ray has enjoyed a 2-to-1 lead in disc sales over HD DVD since the start of 2007, the HD DVD camp has long attributed Blu-ray's lead to the short term market dominance of the Blu-ray enabled PlayStation 3, while pointing to its decisive lead in standalone player sales as a long term sign of strength in the high-def format war.

If independent numbers end up confirming this news from Sony, it would certainly seem to be a punch in the gut for HD DVD, especially given the extent to which its backers have emphasized their own lead in this category.

Toshiba bekräftade detta genom att skicka ut en pressrelease om "Year to date" siffror.
Hade inte BD sålt mer standalones dom 12 senaste veckorna så hade Toshiba påpekat detta...
http://www.highdefdi...r_Dominance/943

55/42, inte alls illa för BD med tanke på Toshibas cuttade priser

Och innan någon påpekar bilden så står det "Units" där också

EDIT: Mysko, "While the competition may claim leadership based on one month of data, Toshiba has had continued sales leadership in every month since the original HD DVD players launched 17 months ago."

Står ju units i bilden också, jag är förvirrad

Redigerat av Unregistered992, 07 September 2007 - 10:26.

Marantz BD8002

Oerhört kul att det dyker upp flera aktörer på spelarsidan!

Snacka om att Blu-Ray har sjukt många företag på deras sida och fler verkar det bli hela tiden!

Nice att se

Ni ver ju det gamla ordspråket, ju fler kockar desto sämre soppa

Redigerat av henke007, 07 September 2007 - 16:51.

Funkar inte riktigt så "In the real world"

Desto fler, desto bättre!

Ni ver ju det gamla ordspråket, ju fler kockar desto sämre soppa (Sopa )

menar du att ju fler företag som ger ur BD spelare så kommer dom närmare HD DVD ?

glädjande att fler och fler fabrikanter kommer med spelare vare sej det är bd eller hd. folk borde glädjas att det kommer mer istället för att börja kasta sin skit omkring sej.

Ni ver ju det gamla ordspråket, ju fler kockar desto sämre soppa (Sopa  ) 

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Jag kan ibland förstå att det kan vara roligt att skämta i vissa trådar, men ibland är det helt obegripligt hur enögd man kan vara. Vad är det som för dig personligen är så dåligt med att det görs fler BD-spelare?
Konkurans mellan tillverkare leder till allt som oftas lägre priser samt bättre kvalité per krona/dollar/euro betalad...

Är väl precis som aengus ^skriver^, bättre att glädjas att vi har fler produkter att välja mellan, än att så fort ordet Blu-Ray kommer upp på tapeten, häva hur sig en massa "strunt"?

Redigerat av Unregistered52a88696, 07 September 2007 - 16:22.

Det var precis vad det var humor, men vissa tar alldeles för allvarligt på saker o ting..

Så mkt skit som det snackas om HDDVD och att det är otillräckligt med
GB och sämre bitrate och att det inte finns några företag som stödjer osv, så
är väl mitt inlägg ingenting...finns fler som sprider skit så att säga..

men visst det är väl kul för BD att det kommer fler spelare, men det gör det
på HDDVD också, många stirrar sig fortfarande blinda på att toshiba endast
tillverkar nåt för HDDVD..

Så mkt skit som det snackas om HDDVD och att det är otillräckligt med
GB och sämre bitrate  och att det inte finns några företag som stödjer osv, så
är väl mitt inlägg ingenting...finns fler som sprider skit så att säga..

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Håller med dig, i att det skrivs mycket "fånerier" runt HD-DVD också. Är det då inte bättre att istället lägga sig på en högre nivå än de inläggen som man stör sig på? (här kastar jag nu småspik i vakumpåse...) Men vem tror du själv att man "lyssnar mest på", den kontraslår hela tiden eller den som lägger ribban ett snäpp högre?

Allt jag försöker säga, är att vi är nog rätt många här på forumet som är evigt trötta på detta "flame war" som vissa håller på med. Visst, det är frivilligt att läsa. Men samtidigt blir det rätt tröttsamt att följa med i trådar, som i grunden är intressanta, som allt för ofta besudlas med en massa s**t.

Redigerat av Unregistered52a88696, 07 September 2007 - 16:44.

marantzen ser ju onekligen ganske så fet ut. hoppas att priset inte blir för högt.

det är väl lite kul ibland med lite pajkastning, ofta så är det rättelser och
tillägg av fakta man skriver samtidigt som man klankar ner lite på varann
osv, ja tycker det är kul till en viss gräns, som i Paramount tråden det var ju en del
pajkastning så att säga men det var skönt för en HDDVD entusiast efter
allt prat om studiosupport osv att let of some steem som Arnold säger i Comando ..

Förstår om många folk som är neutrala eller på väg o bli blir irriterade,
men hur hade världen sett ut om alla tyckte och ville samma sak..

Annars försöker ja lägga ut fakta mm om mitt format och inte bara sprida strunt


jaja för mkt OT nu..

Tartan joins Blu-ray camp with Old Boy Nov. 6

Just got the official release from Tartan Video USA that they are releasing their first title in hi-def on Blu-ray Disc Nov. 6 ($34.95), the cult favorite Korean thriller "Old Boy."
Hamish McAlpine, founder of the 21-year-old Tartan Films in the UK and owner of three-year-old Tartan Video USA and its Asia Extreme brand, says in the media release, “To go with Blu-ray was a no-brainer for Tartan. Not only is the format superior to HD-DVD, but also the fact that (more) studios have chosen to release their films on Blu-ray means that this so-called ‘format war’ is over before it has really begun.”



Källa: Hollywoodinhidef.com

Så mkt skit som det snackas om HDDVD och att det är otillräckligt med
GB och sämre bitrate  och att det inte finns några företag som stödjer osv, så
är väl mitt inlägg ingenting...finns fler som sprider skit så att säga..

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Håller med dig, i att det skrivs mycket "fånerier" runt HD-DVD också. Är det då inte bättre att istället lägga sig på en högre nivå än de inläggen som man stör sig på? (här kastar jag nu småspik i vakumpåse...) Men vem tror du själv att man "lyssnar mest på", den kontraslår hela tiden eller den som lägger ribban ett snäpp högre?

Allt jag försöker säga, är att vi är nog rätt många här på forumet som är evigt trötta på detta "flame war" som vissa håller på med. Visst, det är frivilligt att läsa. Men samtidigt blir det rätt tröttsamt att följa med i trådar, som i grunden är intressanta, som allt för ofta besudlas med en massa s**t.

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Jag håller med dig till 100%, multimedia.

One On One With Paramount's Alan Bell



Even if you have been living under a rock lately (and no, not The Rock Michael Bay), you're aware that Paramount and DreamWorks recently switched to exclusive HD DVD support. While much of the press focus on this move has centered on the alleged $150 million that changed hands, Paramount has gotten out front in explaining that there were cost and technology factors involved in this momentous decision.
Right or wrong, many people won't look past the money story. But Paramount's Chief Technology Officer Alan Bell (pictured above, with the author) was kind enough to sit down with me at CEDIA and explain some of the reasons he recommended that Paramount make this move.

First and foremost, Alan is not part of the business end of things at Paramount. So questions of subsidies and/or financial incentives regarding Paramount's Blu-ray participation and current pro-HD DVD stance are not ones he can answer. But Alan did tell me that as CTO, his opinion played a role in making the move and that supporting HD DVD was indeed his firm recommendation.

Regarding what went into that decision Alan reiterated some things that have been written elsewhere, including HD DVD's stable set of specifications, advanced interactivity, and the difficulty of authoring and replicating Blu-ray Discs.


Alan's position is that Paramount would undoubtedly like to get more involved in advanced interactivity (think Transformers), and that right now the limited capabilities and multiple hardware platforms on Blu-ray would make it difficult to offer these features on both formats and market them properly.

Alan believes that one of the things that makes HD DVD's web enabled interactivity unique is that it offers a transition between physical media and the download world. On top of that, the surface hasn't even been scratched as far as merchandising and other revenue streams that could result. While Blu-ray Discs will start offering networked interactivity late this year or early next, Alan feels the current situation is poor given that most of the third-gen standalone BD players don't support these features.

During our meeting, to illustrate Alan's point that the authoring for BD discs is far more complicated (and therefore expensive), Microsoft's Kevin Collins showed us a graphic purported to be the code required to author a chapter jump on an HDi-authored HD DVD disc and the Java code required to author the same operation on a Blu-ray Disc. The HDi code appeared to be several lines long, while the Java code filled almost an entire page. Time is money in the authoring world, as in so many other walks of life.

Among the things I asked Alan was whether at any point he had the idea that Blu-ray would offer interactivity features that were superior, which might provide a payoff for the increased difficulty. He said that while something could came up down the road, he is not currently aware of anything, beyond an additional layer of copy protection, which offers no benefit to consumers.

Alan also believes that HD DVD has much greater capability to ramp up to massive scale for HD releases. There are more replciation lines available for HD DVD, and because of its similarity to DVD bringing new lines up for HD DVD will be faster, cheaper and easier.

HD DVD is already achieving significantly higher yields in replication at much lower costs. Alan also explained that bringing a replication facility online for Blu-ray requires a massive up front expenditure in equipment, and once that's complete that line is Blu-ray Disc only. HD DVD replication requires something more along the lines of a retrofit, is cheaper by several orders of magnitude, and that same line can still replicate DVDs, offering greater utility.

When I pointed out that most of this was known over a year ago, when Paramount embarked on the dual-format platform, Alan's response was interesting. He said that knowing something on paper is much different than experiencing it firsthand. He described Paramount's year-long foray in dual format releases as offering invaluable experience which led to the decision to back HD DVD. He also felt that Blu-ray's 50GB capacity hasn't panned out to be the qualitative advantage it was supposed to be with the next-gen audio and video codecs.

Overall, Alan's message was that HD DVD represents the simplest and most cost effective way for Paramount to offer the best HD experience to consumers, and that HD DVD will in turn remain more cost effective for consumers, which will bring more people to adopt HD in general.

För de som ville ha mer info om Paramount/Dreamworks beslut